. Much of what they write and believe is racist.
Here’s an example that showcases not only this problem but others as well.
This post quoting Brandon Hicks, a member of “The Committee” at Washington and Lee University, was placed on the Virginia Flaggers Facebook page. Let’s take a look at some of the comments:
Here we see some massive ignorance and a bit of racism. Notice the first post: “stick it to whitey any way they can.” Wow, 38 “Likes,” including this:
The second post asks, “When are they ever in the crypt anyway?” This shows ignorance on the part of the person who posted it. The crypt is in the lower floor of the chapel. The upper floor is where the flags were. Some would say that the flags weren’t visible from outside the Memorial Room that contained the recumbent statue of Lee. The flags weren’t visible in photographs taken from the rear of the chapel. But, as we can see,
the flags are visible from the front of the chapel, and if one is looking from one of the side pews, the flags would be visible even further back. It’s called “perspective.” Your perspective changes depending on where you are in the room. Notice that ignorant comment got 34 “Likes” including:
And let’s take a look at the five replies to that particular comment:
One person wants to close the law school over this. Then we have “California has thousands of black law students they pushed through the system that can’t pass the bar.” This comment was “Liked” by Dustin Gregory Smith and C. J. Lewis.
The final comment of this first group of comments reads, “U.S Grant bought and owned slaves until forced to free them and said, ‘If I thought that this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission and offer my sword to the other side.’ Four slave states remained in the union and West Virginia joined the union as a slave state after the Emancipation Proclamation.” As has been shown repeatedly, this is all nonsense. Grant owned one slave in his life, William Jones, whom he freed in 1859, not because he was forced to do so. He never said the quote attributed to him, and West Virginia wasn’t allowed to join the Union until they had enacted emancipation in their state constitution. That four slave states remained loyal doesn’t change the fact that eleven seceded to protect slavery. There’s no coincidence that the slave states that remained loyal were the four that had the least percentage of their population enslaved.
Here’s the next group of comments:
The first comment is hilarious. “W&L should have mandatory true history classes.” That’s great, because Mr. Causey wouldn’t pass the class if he managed to get admitted and take the class. The next person rails about his GGGGrandfather “being disrespected in his own school.” This guy doesn’t know history, and as to his family’s bloodline, it’s true the vast majority of the country couldn’t care less about it. A responder said, “Your Grandfather was REAL American hero just like Jefferson Davis and Stonewall Jackson.” Well, Jefferson Davis and Stonewall Jackson were arguably American heroes during the Mexican War. During the Civil War, they were traitors to America. That’s just a fact.
Next we have an overtly racist comment: “Black entertainment television offends me. The black shopping network offends me. Miss black America offends me. Ebony magazine offends me. The united negro college fund offends me. The black panthers offend me. Affirmative action offends me. The NBA offends me. The black congressional caucus offends me. The all black fraternities and sororities offend me. Because I’m a white man I’ll just have to get over it. NOT!” There are 36 “Likes” to this comment: Nicole Dollins, Nancy L. Scholz, David Boyett, C. J. Vandergriff, Delores Baugh Goneau, Kent M. Walls, Eve Davenport Holder, Wayne Unger, Rob Mikell, Lu-Ann Clenney, Frances Roy, Christian Erickson, Kyle Tefft, Hubert Cash, Casey Moses Chamberlain, Lynn Hammond, Scott and Stephanie Boehm, James Hutchinson, Barbara Hathaway, Rodney Cool, Lloyd Gilbreath, Mark Lockheart, C. J. Lewis, Jeannie Casey Damron, Greg Duvall, Kimberly Thurston, Travis Gaddy, Jamie Lee Surber, Valencia Hylton Bowman, Arnold Simpson, Sherry McKinney Smith, Susan C. Griffin, Stacey Schultz, Dustin Gregory Smith, Tom Mccrea [sic], and Alan White.
Susan Hathaway then chimes in saying that the students “never ‘sat in that room’ to begin with.” How does she know this? Also, as we’ve seen, the flags were visible from the chapel depending on where you sat.
Here’s the next group of comments:
The first comment is a laugher. The members of “The Committee” obviously know more true history than Mr. Boyett knows. Then we have those who claim the members of “The Committee” went to Washington & Lee solely for the purpose of getting the flags out of the chapel. So a person will spend thousands of dollars to go to a university only because they want to get flags out of a chapel. You really believe that? If so, you’re even dumber than I thought. One person says that the members of “The Committee” should be expelled. I suppose their offense that would justify expulsion would be being “uppity negroes” and not knowing “their place.” The comedy show continues with “Another ignorant yankee who hasn’t spent time looking up official war records.. they are disrespecting a man who loves black folks.” Lee loved black folks so much he thought the master-slave relationship was the best that could exist between whites and blacks in the same country. He loved black folks so much that in Pennsylvania every part of his army engaged in kidnapping black residents to take them south into slavery. He loved black folks so much he wrote, “wherever you find the negro, everything is going down around him, and wherever you find the white man, you see everything around him improving.” He loved black folks so much that on March 12, 1868 he wrote to his son, Robert E. Lee, Jr., advising him to hire only white men, not black men: “When the railroad shall have been completed to West Point, I think there will be no difficulty in getting the whites among you. I would try to get some of our own young men in your employ. I rode out the other day to Mr. Andrew Cameron’s and went into the field where he was plowing. I took great pleasure in following the plows around the circuit. He had four in operation. Three of them were held by his former comrades in the army, who are regularly employed by him, and, he says, much to his satisfaction and profit. People have got to work now. It is creditable to them to do so; their bodies and their minds are benefited by it, and those who can and will work will be advanced by it. You will never prosper with the blacks, and it is abhorrent to a reflecting mind to be supporting and cherishing those who are plotting and working for your injury, and all of whose sympathies and associations are antagonistic to yours. I wish them no evil in the world—on the contrary, will do them every good in my power, and know that they are misled by those to whom they have given their confidence; but our material, social, and political interests are naturally with the whites.” He loved black folks so much that he signed the White Sulphur Springs Manifesto in which he said, “It is true that the people of the South, together with the people of the North and West, are, for obvious reasons, opposed to any system of laws which will place the political power of the country in the hands of the negro race. But this opposition springs from no feelings of enmity, but from a deep seated conviction that at present the negroes have neither the intelligence nor other qualifications which are necessary to make them safe depositories of political power. They would inevitably become the victims of demagogues, who for selfish purposes would mislead them, to the serious injury of the public.” He loved black folks so much that during Reconstruction he testified before Congress that, while he claimed to have good feelings toward blacks, he was against giving them the right to vote and he thought Virginia would be better off if all the black folks were forced to leave the state.
Next we have a ludicrous claim: “people keep on pushing and pushing to take away our rights” as if there is a right to have flags in a chapel on the campus of a private university that you neither attend nor have any other contact with. We continue, “they need to all be sent to an island to live with each other.” So much for African-American students having the right to make their grievances known.
The next group of comments is equally illustrative:
I agree with the first comment. It doesn’t change history. But then again, that commenter has no idea what the actual history is. We also have another knee-slapper here: “If slavery were truly the issue, why is there NEVER any mention of Irish that were sold into slavery?!” Could be because there weren’t any Irish sold into slavery in the United States, and nobody tried to break up the country and fight a bloody civil war in order to keep them in slavery. As we know, historical accuracy isn’t part of the makeup of these folks. Notice the response to that comment, another racist referring to African-American students as “thugs,” with six “Likes” for that comment.
Here’s the next group of comments:
Here we have one person advocating illegal trespass onto the campus and into the chapel: “Need a volunteer Color Guard inperiod dress to bring their own flags and stand sentinel over the General’s grave. And replacements for when they sick the ‘campus police’ on them” and another person showing ignorance of what happens at the university: “Why would students be in there anyway? Unless they want to pay their respects to General Lee. Seems weird to me. Also, the flags offend them but not General Lee himself? That also seems weird.” Well, it is the school’s CHAPEL for one thing. Students who want to attend religious services on campus have to do so in the CHAPEL. Apparently this person doesn’t know what a chapel is and how it is used. Additionally, as the University tells us, “Lee Chapel is a gathering place for the University’s most important academic events. Concerts, lectures and other University activities take place regularly in the 500-seat auditorium on the main level and its balcony.” The statue of Lee is there not because he was a general but because he was the President of Washington College after the Civil War, and was arguably the most significant president the University had. He brought the college back from the brink of ruin and gave it a new start.
When we move onto the next series of comments we see:
We see here more of the same historical illiteracy and a bit of racism at the end: “I wonder of those 6 are actually working for Obama.” Sure. Two “Likes” for that ridiculous comment. No surprises, other than there weren’t more “Likes” for it.
Our next group of commenters really have what it takes to be neoconfederates.
Another call for expelling the students. Again, the probable offense for this person would be that they are “uppity negroes.” “Let them go to their own schools,” eh? Leave the white schools for the white folks? The next commenter is also ignorant of what goes on in the chapel. We have folks here saying that “The Committee” shouldn’t be going to W&L in the first place. Go to an all-black school and leave the white folks alone, right? Then we have one lunatic calling for violence: “grab your rifle, fall in, and fix bayonets! This is war and time for talking is over. Time to physically move onto the campus of W&L, into Lee chapel and replace the battle flags.” Scary individual. And we end this section with more ignorance about the University and its chapel.
This section starts with the myth that history is written by the victors. Obviously this person has no clue about history and merely ignorantly parrots what others falsely claim. Another individual has no idea about what Lincoln said or wrote but spouts off as if they did. The last commenter simply doesn’t have the wherewithal to compose a sentence that makes sense.
We finally get to the final series of comments:
So exercising the right to express a complaint will get someone sent to Federal prison? Really? These people are a real trip. Then we have more people who think they know history but in fact know little about it. Sad.
I think we see why the flaggers haven’t disavowed Matthew Heimbach. It appears from this that they agree with his white supremacist views. The fact that blatantly racist statements can be allowed to stand on their Facebook page and get over thirty “Likes” from the group shows the true colors of the group, and it lends credence to an interpretation of less blatant statements that those are also racist.
We’ll now hear the defense of the racists from our good friend in Pensacola. 🙂